CEE

"Ethical Issues in International Business"

Thursday, April 17, 1997

Panelists: John W. Wright,
President & Chief Operating Officer,
International Division, Wendy's International, Inc.

Deepak V, Kanwar,
Director, Applications Software,
Lucent Technologies

Location: Wendy's International, Inc., Dublin, Ohio

PRESENTATION

What issues of ethics may companies face as they become truly international in their operations? How do responsible companies build and maintain high standards of ethics in highly diverse social and cultural contexts? Steve Warren, ethics officer of Wendy's, opened the conversation by saying that the philosophy and values of David Thomas, founder and senior chairman of Wendy's, have been the basis for the way Wendy's does business. DOING THE RIGHT THING is the concept instilled in the work activities of all employees by Dave Thomas. As a result, Wendy's has always had a code of conduct. This code was formalized in the booklet, Standards of Business Practices, and is provided to all employees. Steve Warren then introduced Dr. David C. Smith, president of the Council for Ethics in Economics, who introduced the panelists.

John Wright noted that the rest of the world is not like the United States. It is difficult "to get one's hands" around the rest of the world because it is so different. Statistically, if the world were a village of 1,000 people, we would find that:

  • 60 have 50% of the income
  • 500 are hungry
  • 600 live in shanty towns
  • 700 are illiterate

In going into other countries, business confronts these situations and others. In addition, other countries have different value systems and ethical situations. They are not necessarily right or wrong but are different. Gift-giving to influence government officials or politicians, for example, is widely practiced in many other places. U.S. companies are subject to the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, which Wendy's honors strictly. In this law there is a section that allows for facilitation payments under certain circumstances. The complexities and interpretations of such circumstances, though, motivated Wendy's to require written approval of the president of the International Division and the general counsel before such payments can be made.

Wright explained that, at present, there are 256 countries in the world and Wendy's participates in 33 of them. It plans to conduct business in these countries according to its ethical platform. Wendy's will continue to promote, to the degree that it can within a country, the values and ethical standards outlined in our manual. We find, unfortunately, that there are issues we confront almost daily that conflict with these standards. Much is not black-and-white, though, and all require value judgments. When all is said and done, if it is not possible to maintain Wendy's standards in a particular country, then we will not operate in that country.

Deepak Kanwar recounted his experience in being sent to manage an office in Belgium where language and cultural differences divide the country. Faced with many decisions, he found the company's statement of core values the best help in deciding:

  • How do you treat customers?
  • How do you treat people?
  • What are your social responsibilities?

Business people going to other countries must take a course on the country, the people, and their values to develop an understanding of situations they may encounter. As an example, Kanwar described a huge celebration he arranged following an important business achievement. Several of his Belgian colleagues attended. Afterward he asked them how they liked it. Their response was "It was OK." Kanwar thought they disliked the celebration. Later, though, he found that their response meant it was a very good celebration.

As a result of such experiences, Kanwar suggested that companies: a) try to bring personnel from the other country back to the United States to share their culture and b) develop a corporate culture that a company can export and adapt to other countries. He ended his remarks by saying THINK GLOBALLY AND ACT LOCALLY.

THE CONVERSATION

Has the collapse of communism also brought ahout a collapse of democratic idealism, leaving only financial gain as a value?

Response: Values differences remain. At present the only guidelines you have are the core values in your corporate culture. This doesn't solve society's problems but it is a start.

How do you recruit or determine the people who have the capability to help a company establish itself in a foreign country and bring the corporate culture to the new setting?

Response from Kanwar: In recruiting personnel, we believe the following expertise is needed:

  • Domain knowledge, that is, knowledge of the product we are selling.
  • Capability of bringing the corporate culture to the job and building an organization with good communication with open channels.
  • Capability of building a bridge between the country and the U.S.

Response from Wright: In addition to the capabilities mentioned, Wendy's wants a functional excellence, hence we spend a lot of time in operations training and global strategies. We do this to have personnel who can execute the product so it is acceptable anywhere in the world. In addition we look for country-specific and language-specific expertise. We try to put all of this together within a structure that makes sense in a particular countries culture. We also try to incorporate Wendy's values in the day-today operating system. Most of our businesses are franchised.

There has been a lot of press during the past few months about U.S. companies partnering with suppliers overseas whose manufacturing guidelines permit the hiring of underage youth to produce products. We are often critical when practices in other countries don't conform to our standards, but how do people in other countries perceive the wage practices of U.S.-based multinationals? For example, do they pay higher rates than are customary? I'm speaking of the partner relationship that U.S. companies have.

Response: This is one of the toughest ethical dilemmas. What happens in a Wendy's restaurant? The staff are local nationals who receive a wage that is well-below the U.S. minimum wage rate. However, how does this fit into their environment? In such settings the job and pay rate are con-sidered to be very good. It is good because you get paid; get clothing (i.e., a uniform) for the job; and, more importantly, you get a job. When you look at that in light of the overall environment, the value-added that we provide for job growth to the franchisee and, in this case, the income we provide to a young person who will augment the family income, brings about a higher quality of life for the family.

You might ask why children in India work instead of going to school? It is a contribution to the family so its members don't starve. When it comes to the question of companies using sweatshops, the line you draw is (at) child abuse.

Consider a question about real-world ethical business problems. A very close friend of mine is a grain broker whose father is one of the largest grain brokers in the United States. He was in a situation where there was discussion about corn or beef with a broker in another country. He said: Yes, we can supply that three times a year. They said: Well, we have an RFP (request for proposal) and it would be really nice, if you would like one of those RFPs, to write a check to us for $100,000. My friend s grain brokerage house was offended and said: We just can't do that. But, when the French faced the same offer, they said: Not a problem. So they bid and delivered the RFP. My question is: Who is God in this ethical role who says that our ethical standards am superior to the French, or to the Germans, or to the Belgians, each of which has different ways that are inseparable from their cultures in doing business? That puts the ethical quiz on it. Who is the God of ethics?

Response: In my answer to that I go back to my original comments. When you look at ethics as culturally driven by your core values, and your core values are set up primarily through a Judeo-Christian type of background that is very direct, very clear, then right is right and wrong is wrong. And when we see other cultures, it is not necessarily the way their values have evolved.

This is what we confront internationally. There isn't a unified set of values. In your example, your friend is constrained by the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.


Response from David Smith: When the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act was first passed around 1978, the rest of the world did look at this as sod of an American moralism or moralistic imperialism. But the tide is timing. More than 50 countries have set up rules, at least on paper, that are similar. The reason is that we are not looking at this as a problem of greasing the palms of petty officials but one of large-scale corruption; not as a moralistic issue, but as a problem that is truly siphoning off the possible benefits of the global economy from a country and even a whole continent! So today there are many voices in France and Germany saying: Maybe these anti-bribery laws are not such a bad idea. Does a German company, for example, really want to say that we won the contract away from the Americans because they paid a bribe? No, they would rather say superior German engineering did it. There are now movements in Europe to try to pass anti-corruption laws. We need to uplift the playing field of fair competition.

Question to Kanwar: In some situations you felt that the conre values of the company were really more helpful to you in trying to make judicious decisions when the regulations just didn't seem to apply. What are some of those core values that you thought were helpful in making decisions?

Response: Nearly all of them. The first is having an obsession with serving your customer. An example is meeting a delivery date even though you are expected to go on vacation Some of the others are:

  • Commitment to business excellence and quality.
  • Deep respect for the customer.
  • Team work.
  • Accountability and integrity.
  • Strong sense of social responsibility.

Are there situations where people in other countries see ethical issues that we don't?

Response from Kanwar: I can think of one example-how we in the United States treat people. In Europe, giving someone two weeks notice of layoff or termination and then out the door is considered inhumane treatment of people. One question I have been asked is: How can you do that to people? Now, there is no easy answer to that question. If is not a legal issue, maybe not an ethical issue, but an issue of the treatment of people.

Response from Wright: This is clearly an ethical issue but one that comes from a different approach. The United States is an intensely competitive country. We believe in individualism and competitiveness. The best rises to the top of the process. In other cultures, there is a kind of collective approach to things. There is competition, but in addition, the collective good of the overall entity is considered, such as the occasion when we wanted to get together with others about software pricing. In this country if we talked to a competitor about pricing, we would be in trouble very quickly. In other cultures they would ask: Why wouldn't you do that? Everybody gets the relative value and everybody wins. This is a difference of approach that you confront in other countries.

ABOUT THE PANELISTS

John W. Wright is president and chief operating officer of the International Division of Wendy's. With a background in managing and strategic planning for international food service companies, he is now responsible for Wendy's operations involving 350 facilities in 33 countries and territories. John Wright is a trustee of the Council for Ethics in Economics.

Deepak V Kanwar is a Network Systems director for Lucent Technologies in Columbus, Ohio. Previously he was located in Brussels, with responsibilities for Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. He earned his education in India and at The Ohio State University.

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